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-
- My favorite is IDL (Interactive Data Language) from Research Systems,
- Inc. IDL is in my opinion, much better and infinitely easier. Its
- programming language is very strong and easy -- very Pascal-like. It
- handles the number-crunching very well, also. Personally, I like doing
- the number-crunching with IDL on the VAX (or Mathematica, Igor, or even
- Excel on the Mac if it's not too hairy), then bringing it over to NIH
- Image for the imaging part. I have yet to encounter any situation which
- that combination couldn't handle, and the speed and ease of use
- (compared to IRAF) was incredible. By the way, it's mostly astronomical
- image processing which I've been doing. This means image enhancement,
- cleaning up bad lines/pixels, and some other traditional image
- processing routines. Then, for example, taking a graph of intensity
- versus position along a line I choose with the mouse, then doing a curve
- fit to that line (which I might do like in KaleidaGraph.)
-
- [ For IDL call Research Systems , for PV-WAVE call Precision Visuals and
- for SIPS call University of Colorado @ Boulder . From what I can
- understand, you can get packaged programs from Research Systems, though
- -- nfotis ]
-
- Visual3
- -------
- contact Robert Haimes, MIT
-
- FieldView
- ---------
- Intelligent Light Corp.
-
-
- ==========================================================================
-
- 18. Molecular visualization stuff
- ---------------------------------
-
- [ Based on a list from cristy@dupont.com < Cristy > , which asked for
- systems for displaying Molecular Dynamics, MD for short ]
-
- Flex
- ----
- It is a public domain package written by Michael Pique, at The Scripps
- Research Institute, La Jolla, CA. Flex is stored as a compressed,
- tar'ed archive (about 3.4MB) at perutz.scripps.edu [137.131.152.27], in
- pub/flex. It displays molecular models and MD trajectories.
-
- MacMolecule
- -----------
- (for Macintosh). I searched with Archie, and the most
- promising place is sumex-aim.stanford.edu (info-mac/app, and
- info-mac/art/qt for a demo)
-
- MD-DISPLAY
- ----------
- Runs on SGI machines. Call Terry Lybrand (lybrand@milton.u.washington.edu).
-
- XtalView
- --------
- It is a crystallography package that does visualize molecules and much more.
- It uses the XView toolkit.
- Call Duncan McRee <dem@scripps.edu>
-
- landman@hal.physics.wayne.edu:
- -----------------------------
- I am writing my own visualization code right now. I look at MD output
- (a specific format, easy to alter for the subroutine) on PC's. My
- program has hooks into GKS. If your friend has access to Phigs for X
- (PEX) and fortran bindings, I would be happy to share my evolving code
- (free of charge). Right now it can display supercells of up to 65
- atoms (easy to change), and up to 100 time steps, drawing nearest
- neighbor bonds between 2 defining nn radii. It works acceptably fast
- on a 10Mhz 286.
-
- icsg0001@caesar.cs.montana.edu:
- ------------------------------
- I did a project on Molecular Visualization for my Master's Thesis, using
- UNIX/X11/Motif which generates a simple point and space-filling model.
-
- KGNGRAF
- -------
-
- KGNGRAF is part of MOTECC-91. Look on malena.crs4.it (156.148.7.12),
- in pub/motecc.
-
- motecc.info.txt Information about MOTECC-91 in plain ascii format.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- motecc.info.troff Information about MOTECC-91 in troff format.
- motecc.form.troff MOTECC-91 order form in troff format.
- motecc.license.troff MOTECC-91 license agreement in troff format.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- motecc.info.ps Information about MOTECC-91 in PostScript format.
- motecc.form.ps MOTECC-91 order form in PostScript format.
- motecc.license.ps MOTECC-91 license agreement in PostScript format.
-
-
- ditolla@itnsg1.cineca.it:
- ------------------------
- I'm working on molecular dynamic too. A friend of mine and I have
- developed a program to display an MD run dynamically on Silicon
- Graphics. We are working to improve it, but it doesn't work under X,
- we are using the graphi. lib. of the Silicon Gr. because they are much
- faster then X. When we'll end it we'll post on the news info about
- where to get it with ftp. (Will be free software).
-
- XBall V2.0
- ----------
- Written by David Nedde. Call daven@maxine.wpi.edu.
-
- XMol
- ----
- An X Window System program that uses OSF/Motif for the
- display and analysis of molecular model data. Data from several
- common file formats can be read and written; current formats include:
- Alchemy, CHEMLAB-II, Gaussian, MOLSIM, MOPAC, PDB, and MSCI's XYZ
- format (which has been designed for simplicity in translating to
- and from other formats). XMol also allows for conversion between
- several of these formats.
- Xmol is available at ftp.msc.edu. Read pub/xmol/README for
- further details.
-
- INSIGHT II
- ----------
- from BIOSYM Technologies Inc.
-
- SCARECROW
- ---------
- The program has been published in J. Molecular Graphics 10
- (1992) 33. The program can analyze and display CHARMM, DISCOVER, YASP
- and MUMOD trajectories. The program package contains also software for
- the generation of probe surfaces, proton affinity
- surfaces and molecular orbitals from an extended Huckel program.
- It works on Silicon Graphics machines.
- Contact Leif Laaksonen <Leif.Laaksonen@csc.fi or laaksone@csc.fi>
-
- [ I would also suggest looking at least in SGI's Applications Directory.
- It contains many more packages - nfotis ]
-
- ==========================================================================
-
- 19. GIS (Geographical Information Systems software)
- ---------------------------------------------------
-
- [ I wish to put under this title and the mainly Remote Sensing software that's
- presently under Subject
- 15: Image analysis software - Image processing and display . Any ideas?? ]
-
-
- GRASS
- -----
- (Geographic Resource Analysis Support System) of the US Army
- Construction Engineering Research Lab (CERL). It is a popular geographic and
- remote sensing image processing package. Many may think of GRASS as a
- Geographic Information System rather than an Image Processing package,
- although it is reported to have significant image processing
- capabilities.
-
- Feature Descriptions
-
- I use GRASS because it's public domain and can be obtained through the
- internet for free. GRASS runs in Unix and is written in C. The source
- code can be obtained through an anonymous ftp from the Office of Grass
- Integration. You then compile the source code for your machine, using
- scripts provided with GRASS. I would recommend GRASS for someone who
- already has a workstation and is on a limited budget. GRASS is not very
- user-friendly, compared to Macintosh software." A first review of
- overview documentation indicates that it looks useful and has some pixel
- resampling functions not in other packages plus good general purpose
- image enhancement routines (fft). Kelly Maurice at Vexcel Corp. in
- Boulder, CO is a primary user of GRASS . This gentleman has used the
- GRASS software and developed multi-spectral (238 bands ??) volumetric
- rendering, full color, on Suns and Stardents. It was a really effective
- interface. Vexcel Corp. currently has a contract to map part of Venus
- and convert the Magellan radar data into contour maps. You can call them
- at (303) 444-0094 or email care of greg@vexcel.com 192.92.90.68
-
- Host Configuration Requirements
-
- If you are willing to run A/UX you could install GRASS on a Macintosh
- which has significant image analysis and import capabilities for
- satellite data. GRASS is public-domain, and can run on a high-end PC
- under UNIX. It is raster-based, has some image-processing capability,
- and can display vector data (but analysis must be done in the raster
- environment). I have used GRASS V.3 on a SUN workstation and found it
- easy to use. It is best, of course, for data that are well represented
- in raster (grid-cell) form.
-
- Availability
-
- CERL's Office of Grass Integration (OGI) maintains an ftp server:
- moon.cecer.army.mil (129.229.20.254).
-
- Connections are only allowed during off- peak hours (weekends and
- weekdays before 8:00 A.M. and after 5:00 P.M. Central Standard time).
- Mail regarding this site should be addressed to
- grass-ftp-admin@moon.cecer.army.mil.
-
- This location will be the new "canonical" source for GRASS software, as
- well as bug fixes, contributed sources, documentation, and other files.
- This FTP server also supports dynamic compression and uncompression and
- "tar" archiving of files. A feature attraction of the server is John
- Parks' GRASS tutorial. Because the manual is still in beta-test stage,
- John requests that people only acquire it if they are willing to review
- it and mail him comments/corrections. The OGI is not currently
- maintaining this document, so all correspondence about it should be
- directed to grassx@tang.uark.edu
-
- Support
-
- Listserv mailing lists:
-
- grassu-list@amber.cecer.army.mil (for GRASS users; application-level
- questions, support concerns, miscellaneous questions, etc) Send
- subscribe commands to grassu-request@amber.cecer.army.mil.
-
- grassp-list@amber.cecer.army.mil (for GRASS programmers; system-level
- questions and tips, tricks, and techniques of design and implementation
- of GRASS applications) Send subscribe commands to
- grassp-request@amber.cecer.army.mil.
-
- Both lists are maintained by the Office of Grass Integration (subset of
- the Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Lab in
- Champaign, IL). The OGI is providing the lists as a service to the
- community; while OGI and CERL employees will participate in the lists,
- we can make no claim as to content or veracity of messages that pass
- through the list. If you have questions, problems, or comments, send
- E-mail to lists-owner@amber.cecer.army.mil and a human will respond.
-
- Microstation Imager
- -------------------
- Intergraph (based in Huntsville Alabama) sells a wide range of GIS
- software/hardware. Microstation is a base graphics package that Imager
- sits on top of. Imager is basically an image processing package with a
- heavy GIS/remote sensing flavor.
-
- Feature Description
-
- Basic geometry manipulations: flip, mirror, rotate, generalized affine.
- Rectification: Affine, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th order models as well as a
- projective model (warp an image to a vector map or to another image).
- RGB to IHS and IHS to RGB conversion. Principal component analysis.
- Classification: K-means and isodata. Fourier Xforms: Forward, filtering
- and reverse. Filters: High pass, low pass, edge enhancing, median,
- generic. Complex Histogram/Contrast control. Layer Controller: manages
- up to 64 images at a time -- user can extract single bands from a 3 band
- image or create color images by combining various individual bands, etc.
-
- The package is designed for a remote sensing application (it can handle
- VERY LARGE images) and there is all kinds of other software available
- for GIS applications.
- Host Configuration Requirements
-
- It runs on Intergraph Workstations (a Unix machine similar to a Sun)
- though there were rumors (there are always rumors) that the software
- would be ported to PC and possibly a Sun environment.
-
- PCI
- ---
- A company called PCI, Inc., out of Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada, makes
- an array of software utilities for processing, manipulation, and use of
- remote sensing data in eight or ten different "industry standard"
- formats: LGSOWG, BSQ, LANDSAT, and a couple of others whose titles I
- forget. The software is available in versions for MS-DOS, Unix
- workstations (among them HP, Sun, and IBM), and VMS, and quite possibly
- other platforms by now. I use the VMS version.
-
- The "PCI software" consists of several classes/groups/packages of
- utilities, grouped by function but all operating on a common "PCI
- database" disk file. The "Tape I/O" package is a set of utility
- programs which read from the various remote-sensing industry tape
- formats INTO, or write those formats out FROM, the "PCI database" file;
- this is the only package I use or know much about. Other packages can
- display data from the PCI database to one or another of several
- PCI-supported third-party color displays, output numeric or bitmap
- representation of image data to an attached printer, e.g. an Epson-type
- dot-matrix graphics printer. You might be more spe- cifically
- interested in the mathematical operations package: histo- gram and
- Fourier analysis, equalization, user-specified operations (e.g.
- "multiply channel 1 by 3, add channel 2, and store as channel 5"), and
- God only knows what all else -- there's a LOT. I don't have and don't
- use these, so can't say much about them; you only buy the packages your
- particular application/interest calls for.
-
- Each utility is controlled by from one to eight "parameters," read from
- a common "parameter file" which must be (in VMS anyway) in your "default
- directory." Some utilities will share parameters and use the same
- parameter for a different purpose, so it can get a bit confusing setting
- up a series of operations. The standard PCI environment contains a
- scripting language very similar to IBM-PC BASIC, but which allows you to
- automate the process of setting up parameters for a common, complicated,
- lengthy or difficult series of utility executions. (In VMS I can also
- invoke utilities independently from a DCL command procedure.) There's
- also an optional programming library which allows you to write compiled
- language programs which can interface with (read from/write to) the PCI
- data structures (database file, parameter file).
-
- The PCI software is designed specifically for remote-sensing images, but
- requires such a level of operator expertise that, once you reach the
- level where you can handle r-s images, you can figure out ways to handle
- a few other things as well. For instance, the Tape I/O package offers a
- utility for reading headerless multi-band (what Adobe PhotoShop on the
- Macintosh calls "raw") data from tape, in a number of different
- "interleave" orders. This turns out to be ideal for manipulating the
- graphic-arts industry's "CT2T" format, would probably (I haven't tried)
- handle Targa, and so on. Above all, however, you HAVE TO KNOW WHAT
- YOU'RE DOING or you can screw up to the Nth degree and have to start
- over. It's worth noting that the PCI "database" file is designed to
- contain not only "raster" (image) data, but vectors (for overlaying map
- information entered via digitizing table), land-use, and all manner of
- other information (I observe that a remote-sensing image tape often
- contains all manner of information about the spectral bands, latitude,
- longitude, time, date, etc. of the original satellite pass; all of this
- can go into the PCI "database").
-
- I _believe_ that on workstations the built-in display is used. On VAX
- systems OTHER than workstations PCI supports only a couple of specific
- third-party display systems (the name Gould/Deanza seems to come to
- mind). One of MY personal workarounds was a display program which would
- display directly from a PCI "database" file to a Peritek VCT-Q (Q-bus
- 24-bit DirectColor) display subsystem. PCI software COULD be "overkill"
- in your case; it seems designed for the very "high end"
- applications/users, i.e. those for whom a Mac/PC largely doesn't suffice
- (although as you know the gap is getting smaller all the time). It's
- probably no coincidence that PCI is located in Canada, a country which
- does a LOT of its land/resource management via remote sensing; I believe
- the Canadian government uses PCI software for some of its work in these
- areas.
-
- SPAM (Spectral Analysis Manager)
- --------------------------------
- Back in 1985 JPL developed something called SPAM (Spectral Analysis
- Manager) which got a fair amount of use at the time. That was designed
- for Airborne Imaging Spectrometer imagery (byte data, <= 256 pixels
- across by <= 512 lines by <= 256 bands); a modified version has since
- been developed for AVIRIS (Airborne VIsual and InfraRed Imaging
- Spectrometer) which uses much larger images.
-
- Spam does none of these things (rectification, classification, PC and
- IHS transformations, filtering, contrast enhancement, overlays).
- Actually, it does limited filtering and contrast enhancement
- (stretching). Spam is aimed at spectral identification and clustering.
-
- The original Spam uses X or SunView to display. The AVIRIS version may
- require VICAR, an executive based on TAE, and may also require a frame
- buffer. I can refer you to people if you're interested. PCW requires X
- for display.
-
- MAP II
- ------
- Among the Mac GIS systems, MAP II is distributed by John Wiley.
-
- ==========================================================================
-
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- From: nfotis@ntua.gr (Nick C. Fotis)
- Subject: (3 Oct 92) Soc.Culture.Greek Frequently Asked Questions and Answers
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-
- Soc.Culture.Greek Frequently Asked Questions and Answers
- ========================================================
- Last Change: 15 Octomber 1992
-
- Items Changed:
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-
- [ I'll keep an up-to-date copy in ariadne.csi.forth.gr FTP area.
- Also note that I'm posting this FAQ to news.answers, so it'll be
- automagically archived for later reference .
-
- Also, I'm thinking of splitting this FAQ into two parts:
- one technical and one culture-related.
- What do you think?? -- nfotis ]
-
- --
-
- Lines which got changed, have the `#' character in front of them.
- Added lines are prepended with a `+'
- Removed lines are just removed. Use 'diff' to locate these changes.
-
- I have included my comments within braces '[' and ']'.
-
- Nikolaos Fotis
-
- =======================================================================
-
- First, I wish to thank publicly the following people:
-
- Spiros Triantafyllopoulos <c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com>
- P." Iatroudakis <ccav82@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>
- Achilles Voliotis <achilles@theseas.ntua.gr>
- Yiannis Moschovakis <ynm@math.ucla.edu>
-
- for their help in making this list more clear and complete.
-
- Second, that's only a hasty collection of texts and information as I
- (or other people) remember it, so this file is worth only what you paid for it
- (and even less! ;-) )
-
- Subjects:
- =========
- 1. What is the Soc.Culture.Greek newsgroup??
- a. Newsgroup charter [ who has a copy ???]
- b. Network etiquette.
- 2. What's needed in order to have Greek characters in my computer?
- a. PCs
- b. PCs with MS Windows
- c. Mac
- d. Other
- 3. Internet/BITNET/UUCP University sites in Greece?
- 4. What standards exist for inclusion of Greek characters into ASCII text?
- 5. How do I write greek with troff/TeX/WP/... ??
- 6. Greek fonts into X Windows
- 7. Bookstores that carry Greek books
- 8. Greek cuisine -- recommended books??
- 9. Greek wines -- reference book(s)
- 10. The 12 Greek Gods : who are they?
- 11. Greek Popular Music [ NEW SUBJECT]
-
- Proposed future subjects:
- [ Please send me info to stuff these subjects!! -- nfotis]
-
- What's the deal with a travel to Greece?
- Graduate studies in Greece that are interesting for non-Greeks?
- (eg. archaeology)
- Is there any decent backgammon program?
- [any ideas/info/... ??]
-
- ==============
-
- I ask the people to send me stuff in order to make this file more
- complete. I'm just a kind of editor, and I cannot know everything.
-
- YOU'll determine if this FAQ is good or not!
-
- ==============
-
- 1. What is the Soc.Culture.Greek newsgroup??
- ============================================
-
- a. Newsgroup charter. [ who has a copy ???]
- ---------------------
-
- b. Network etiquette.
- ---------------------
- [ Excerpted from Eugene Miya's Draft FAQ in comp.graphics.visualization: ]
-
- We assume you have read news.announce.newusers and that you understand
- network informalities. This group is not moderated, and this is one
- experiment in self-moderation (education).
-
- If you have questions, ask you system administrator. If you are the system
- administrator, use MAIL, and ask your net neighbors.
-
- Do not post TESTS here. Special testing groups exist to acknowledge your
- posts. Test in misc.test, or in your locale: e.g., ba.test, ca.test, na.test,
- etc.
-
- Some people believe the charter should be posted. The name of the group
- should sufficiently convey the purpose of this group.
-
- Flame wars: 1) Flame using mail. Failing that 2) Cut down on the number
- of groups in your Newsgroups: line. 3) Use Followup-To: a line with
- fewer newsgroups. Make certain you read all posts before responding, the net
- is asynchronous enough as it is: the History of Dumb posts includes such
- titles as
- "What time is it?" "The Space Shuttle blew up!" and "California just had an
- earthquake." See your local broadcast news.
-
- Attribution: (Those lines frequently beginning with ">") MINIMIZE.
- Especially: don't post "Me, too" posts after 100 lines of attribution.
- Remove especially long sigatures at the bottoms of posts.
- Use email. Show that you are intelligent and net savvy in your postings.
- Edit carefully.
-
- [If you feel that the ratio of inflammatory or relevant posts is too high for
- your tastes, go read the manual of your news reader in the section of kill
- files. This way, you can customize your news reader to not bother you with
- messages from certain people, or which contain particular keywords in their
- headers. This way, you can avoid all the headache associated with such posts -
- not a minor thing - nfotis ]
-
- 2. What's needed in order to have Greek characters in my computer?
- ==================================================================
-
- a. PCs
- ------
-
- [ The following information applies for AT-like PCs. For PS/2s, things
- are somewhat different, but I don't know many details -- nfotis ]
-
- For english in GENERAL, you will have either a software or hardware solution:
-
- For Monochrome, Hercules, and CGA your only hope is a Greek Chip Character
- Generator. It is usually supplied by the Greek PC vendors. If you buy the
- PC elsewhere (i.e. in the US) and bring it to Greece, tough.
-
- For EGA/VGA, there are plenty of user-defined fonts around. In Greece,
- your vendor will typically supply with one, or there are free versions.
- All it really is is the software version of the Character Chip.
-
- In either case, the Greek Characters take over the high bytes (128+)
- of the extended ASCII set the PC uses and replace the funny symbols
- umlauts, funny puncuation, etc) with Greek letters. In the first case it
- is done in hardware, second in software. Then there is a TSR program loaded
- at boot time that switches (i.e. ALT-SHIFT toggles between the two.
- This program is also supplied by the vendor.
-
- A third SLOW case for CGA/Herc machines is to use SOFT fonts, i.e. characters
- done in graphics mode. Extremely slow but inexpensive. A good Shareware
- Greek word processor works that way. Details below.
-
- This way you get to type greek to programs like text editors. When the text
- is saved (extended or 8 bit text) you'll see the funny characters that
- Greek is represented by.
-
- Same deal with printers, i.e. the PRINTER character chip will have the extended
- ascii set to include Greek. So when you print a file using DOS print, it will
- come up OK. Alternatively, printers that handle soft (downloadable) fonts,
- can download the fonts and then you print as usual.
-
- A good word processor for Greek (and many other non english languages) is
- INTEXT12. It can be found at various US ftp sites (oak.oakland.edu under
- editors directory). Accepts the common denominator (herc/cga) and uses soft
- fonts. Works OK for things like letters etc though I would not try anything
- like a college thesis with it.
-
- Commercial systems:
- For more $$$, you can buy NOTA BENE (i believe) which has a very good Greek
- mode for $500 or so. Several small vendors advertise Greek WP systems typically
- in the back of, say, PC Magazine or Byte. Prices are in the $150-$500 range.
- Also, the WordPerfect distributor here has made a Greek version of the software
- and the manuals. PCwrite also does works well with Greek letters.
-
- b. PCs with MS Windows
- ----------------------
-
- Get wingreek13.zip from ftp.cica.indiana.edu's font directory. Has several
- Greek fonts and Hebrew as well (!). The fonts are straight windows fonts
- and any application can see them with a bit of effort. MSWrite, the toy
- word processor that comes with windows is a good example of a program that
- can use the Greek fonts.
-
- Several font vendors also supply their own fonts with ATM and TrueType. You can
- also use the SYMBOL fonts which looks kind of silly (i.e. troff) but works
- if everything else fails.
-
- With the advent of Windows 3.1, the existing problem of printing to
- IBM-speaking printers will be eliminated via the downloaded font system.
- (The printers here in general know only the old IBM-PC character set, while
- the MS Windows had ELOT-928 - you may guess the confusion that arose and
- the need for more filters ;-) )
-
- c. Mac
- ------
-
- Simple: Get the machine from Greek dealers! The MacOS is completely hellenized
- (menus, messages, etc.) and basic applications are also hellenized and available
- with Greek font support (eg. MS Word).
-
- In general, you press the left-clover and Space keys to toggle
- between Greek and English keyboard.
-
- The 'left-clover' key is known in the Mac community as 'Command'
- key. The trick should also work with the right Command-key on the Apple
- Extended Keyboard. What happens when you do this is that you toggle the
- 'Keyboard' cdev (control device) from english to the local language. This
- resides in the System Folder, and in theory you could rotate between more
- than two keyboard mappings--e.g., greek, english, german and spanish. With
- system 7 there is the inherent capability to include all available
- 'Keyboard' resources in a menu on the right side of the menu-bar of the
- Finder, so that one could change the current setting easily. This has not
- yet been fully implemented. If and when it does it will not affect the
- individual application resources, in other words applications that are not
- hellenized will not automatically become so.
-
- From what I know, the Greek Apple dealers use a special set of ROMs,
- soooo... they may put such a set on your machine, but not for free!
-
- d. Other
- --------
-
- Amiga: there was a half-hearted attempt to implement Greek character sets
- in the upper 128 positions. I don't know the current status of affairs in
- this matter.
-
- [ A netter offered his additions : ]
- The Amiga always supported different fonts. I always write my greek letters
- in a symbol font. But there are programs that support Adobe fonts and import
- fonts from the MAC and IBM line of computers.
- On top of that it is very easy to edit your own font.
- Using most terminal programs is a question of selecting a menu entry and
- you can get a diffrent font display on screen. Amiga also supports LaTex,
- Postcript.
- Also on a final note the latest version of the operating system (2.1?) you
- can select the language you want and the Menu entries occur in the language
- you wish (Translated not just change of fonts), easy script files can be
- written and a click of a function key and you can swap between fonts.
- So in general all Word processors, text editors, in fact all software
- supports Greek ....
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- [ Other machines?? Anyone who knows more here?? -- nfotis ]
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- 3. Internet/BITNET/UUCP University sites in Greece?
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